The Real Truth About Abydos, Visitors (Just not what you were expecting)

[KA-Bar]

Well, as an afterthought myself, due to their math, the early Egyptians used 22/7 as the value for PI. It is close, but no cigar. IDK how much later in their history they refined it, but 22/7 was a "magic number for some years in Egypt.

K

[7redorbs]

Yes Egyptian pi/phi is different, interestingly some claim that the egyptian phi is more "accurate" .. don't know quite how this would be though.


A

[KA-Bar]

Unless I miss something here, Egyptians called the ratio of 22/7 the "magic number" or "divine number". Later on, as the Greeks refiend calculations and all of civilization began refining numbers by using Arabic decimal notation they refined it from 22/7 to the correct value of 3.1412 etc... PHI was merely a letter in the Greek alphabet which was later used by some mathematicians in calculations to represent constants.

For example, the "golden ratio" also known as PHI is one of the most famous. So, in use, we must distinguish between the use of these two as they evolved. The value for PI was used exactly by Egyptians, but approximated as 22/7 due to their poor mathematical notation. Since PHI is an exact value obtainable from a straight line, no decimal notation is needed in many cases and ratios can be integers.

So, we must be careful what we are talking about here. PHI is certainly more accurate but is not PI. PHI varies with the object, but PI is a constant.

K

[7redorbs]

True, I should have said the Egyptian usage of conventional "PI" is 22/7 , 3.14 28571428571428571428571428571

REP = repeat

Solfeggio 'seeding' extraction;
STAGE1: 285 714 285 714
STAGE2: 528 417 528 417
STAGE3: 852 174 825 174

^ above show frequency harmonic seeding and construction / geometry

I think 22 /7 is a 'fractal number' or something, and that was why it was used, it constantly repeats. Music is based on this principle in layout. But interestingly many hymns, and the original secret solfeggio of the church seems to be based on this in a rather odd unexpected way.

From 22/7 these hz for solfeggio are extrapolated

SE1= SET 1, SE2=SET 2

SE1, SE1, SE2, SE2, SE1, SE2
174, 417, 528 , 285, 741, 852 (hz where A=432hz)

As a musician with a bizarre talent JUST at writing music (im useless at sight reading, always have been even though i was clasically trained for a decade ) I can tell you I've had a sort of 'understanding' of this in composition; I believe as Pythagorean mathematics that music has geometry, as much as music has superposition - in that the way a peice of music 'moves you' - it really is a moving wave, that creates a static geometry. specifically if derived from a number like 22 /7 (which is fractal) - the question is why is fractals so important for resonance and superposition in the Solfeggio, and why did this first appear in the St. John the baptist Hymn?

Make no mistake, there is something to this, but it is an extremely complicated endeavor, it requires mathematical and spiritual qualities. I have an article on this too, if you study Mozarts Magic Flute you will see the geometry Mozart had an illicit understanding of, if anyone has an eye for musical patterns (or ear for that matter) you should study a visually scaled representation of Bach's Brandenburg concerto or Mozart's magic flute, anyone can see this geometry with the visual aid, however some can see it whilst listening, some can also see it before playing, because it is more really a fractal self referent paradox to continuously write music well, and a balance between high mathematics and artistic creation is as equal to the egyptians sophistication in the understanding between the brilliance of a good tool and a good method - and the required balance. It is interesting that such a 'balance' is mirrored in the seeding of the solfeggio frequencies. Quite a marvelous idea, and one who would say these frequencies are 'made up' and 'show me the research that links 22/7 to solfeggio' - well read some of Horrowitz' stuff, as a musician I can't possibly emphasis the importance of understanding that geometry is what music is, we just have so many cultural boxes...

Perhaps we do not need many millions of average people... but just a single genius listened to. The solfeggio was almost lost forever, but people like Mozart and members of the church did keep some of it alive (even though the church was somewhat responsible for the supressing of it).

Consider this.. What frequency do brainwaves work at beta, theta, alpha, etc- 0-14hz, isn't it? Do you know how low a pipe organ goes in a church? It's not as simple as 'that book is BS'. Anyone who thinks it is, you can trust me on that one at the very least. Surely listening to geometrical music isn't a form of entrainment? is it? surely....

Interesting indeed

A

(just some random thoughts I had to add)

ps.
Ironic how the numbers in the 22 / 7 Egyptian pi create perfect resonance with them (physicists who don't believe me try and discredit me and Horowitz, these frequencies create extreme resonance - allegedly making even dna resonate - with alleged healing properties)

Almost as if someone way smarter than us or the Egyptians came u with it. To me maybe it is more a case of discovering whom now, rather than where. Emphasis on sets of 3 harmonics (or chords) i.e. resonance. The first created solfeggio frequencies were these, they are known in solfeggio literature as the 'main 6' , later a 7th was added.

The Main 6 frequencies of solfeggio ( I call them seeds because they are direct crypto-encoded-extrapolations) though, are extrapolated DIRECTLY in HIGHLY ORDERED geometric ways, and i feel they have powers we do not understand quite yet.

As scientists has noticed the universe appears to be fractal, many fringe physicists admit there is a 'very real' possibility we were 'sung into existence' , there are many of these fractal patterns repeated everywhere in all life and matter in the universe is made of it, perhaps someone who came up with the Solfeggio knew that the inner wisdom was there already, and not to be 'created intellectually somehow' - but to be observed, as Ralph ring says.. "You must always work with Mother Nature. Force is never necessary. The laws of the physical universe are really very simple." And when it comes to a lot of this geometry, it really is just 'all the same stuff' just being extrapolated/extracted and expressed in variant fashions, but all being of the same ether. something like that ;] ehehe

[KA-Bar]

Try "Godel Escher and Bach" or "The Singluarity Approaches" for some interesting thoughts.

K

[KA-Bar]

Edit to my post #13:

I said "Since PHI is an exact value obtainable from a straight line, no decimal notation is needed in many cases and ratios can be integers" and that should be corrected to read: "Since PHI is an exact value obtainable from a straight line which is easily measured, and can be derived from integers, no decimal notation need be used for obtaining it even though the final value is a non integer constant similar to PI."

Sorry, too late at night I guess.

K

[7redorbs]

Originally Posted by KA-Bar Try "Godel Escher and Bach" or "The Singluarity Approaches" for some interesting thoughts. K

Singularity approach, as in it can go on forever? Based on a self referential/fractal like mathematical intonating pattern? That's how I can write music so easily, explaining it to people ain't so easy though.. I'll have a look up at it, and see if I can integrate it with my study of the solfeggio

I've not heard of the singularity approach, so should be interesting, thanks

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[7redorbs]

quote - "the golden mean is like a magickal type of blank sheet paper, once you know what it is, you can draw anything you like and understand anything in that ordered way, and that applies for music too.. it is the most liberating and wondrous feeling upon conception, and albeit my awakening small of kinds, one could only imagine that the likes of Mozart and Bach were aware of this triangle, so much more profoundly. Indeed to know solfeggio and to know 22 / 7 is to know infinity in shorthand, and at the very least, touching the hand or reflection of god. Ad infinitium is not something to reject or ignore, but something to solve, and this was done a long time with fractals.

We must consider what can be and indeed, has been learnt in knowing the order of the infinite can be understood in ways that allow us to become creatively leased to singularity, that is to understand the meaning of the 3, the past present and future, and understanding that is to understand the nature of the very process blessed be to music mind, matter and soul - at once - and it is of not materiality, but many or several immaterial-ities which creates a materiality out of itself, like two waves standing in superposition precisely, all noticed and all material as a wave, but untouchable and unseperateable by nature. Indeed when we understand the equation of fate and of creation we change each accordingly, as above is below "

[7redorbs]

I'm waiting for someone to disprove me, or improve this argument

I'm not sure I can do that on my own any further ;-)

A

[A.G.Frog]

I am pretty sure the math is correct,Pi and Phi seem to both be there.
Pi, using the wheel to measure distance and Phi after squaring the circle.
He clearly states the ratios 1 to .618
I am pretty sure talk of flying like we do today was once considered nonsense in our recent past and we cannot even reproduce the Pyramids.
Who is to say that a society of people with unknown skills of building did not have such exotic options as flying or levitation.
When the inter-workings of a new (old but new to us) technology are unknown it is always looked upon as a trick, magic or imposable.
whether they got it from someone else or somewhere else does not matter. They seemed to have used it to flourish in the land they called home and that is proof enough for me. Necessity is definitely the mother all invention.
So if you do not believe in anti-gravity or wild magical technology then I challenge you to stop using it.
Your car is an anti gravity machine, and it would be too weird to soar like a bird in the sky with sun in your backdrop flying from place to place
We have all this tech but I still can't find anything close to what the ancients had. They built whats in Giza and they are supposed to be the primitive ones?
Come on, wake up ,we still could not build such things with all the machines we have today.
I hope that there is another life form watching and laughing at us, who knows maybe they don't believe we exist.
If someone or something did not intervene then I guess that would make the ancients super smart, Highly skilled primitives who like to put nonsense on walls.
or something like that.
your friendly neighborhood believer
J